I'm voting Roc Abo in November: Republican Only Congress & Anyone But Obama.

No, we need another Republican to further drag us into deeper debt,

No, we don't; we have a Democrat presently in the White House who is doing just that and succeeding wildly, something that your letter fails to address.

it was not Barack Obama who created this mess -- it was your man

True enough, I suppose, but your man -- Our Dear Reader -- took a bad situation and made it so very much worse, something else your letter fails to address.

The Republican candidates are good for entertainment and nothing else! This is nothing more then a dreadful spectacle with the parade of clowns crooning for negative attention that their minions applaud like laughing fools at every heinous statement made.

These candidates have described a wide range of methods by which they would destroy our government regardless of which Clown leads the pack.

1. Cut Social Security
2. Continue to fight stupid little wars
3. Deregulate everything
4. Stop funding for Public Education
5. Outlaw abortion
6. Continue to punish the Middle Class
8. Let the Sick, Old,& Disabled Die! ("God's Will")
9. Eliminate Minimum Wage
10. Continue Trade using Child & Slave labor.

This Lot of Carnies are unintelligent and mean spirited! It's one thing, when they get in front of a psychotic and bitter GOP crowd and make bigoted and hateful statements about our country - It will be different when the General Election is in play.
This Parade of Carnies and Clowns will LOSE!

Well, Janice the reason why the Republicans wanted to make Obama a one term president from the get-go is because they knew the socialist path this radical man was wanted to take our country down.

And judging by his re-distribution plan, disregard for the constitution, class ware, pitting Americans against one another, etc., I think they knew this man well.

I'll agree that the spending started with Bush but Obama did not make it any better but made it TRILLIONS of dollars WORSE.

If he is not the "typical" insider in Washington, why is he in bed with lobbylists and why has he taken more money from Wall Street than ANY OTHER presidential candidate???

You Janice are the one that needs to wake up and stop drinking the kool-aid.

@suss1960

The Liberals always claim the Republicans want to cut Social Security and let the sick, old,& disabled die. Remember that payroll tax cut that was extended a few months ago, that Obama and the Democrats stood up on high and touted as an extension of a great middle class tax cut? No one realized or mentioned that the payroll tax funds Social Security and Medicare!

So when the Democrats want to cut funding to Social Security and Madicare because that's what they did by extending the payroll tax cut, its ok. But when the Republicans want to they're uncompasionate and out to kill Granny and Grandpa

It does not matter to them if America crumbles; they just cannot be humiliated by another Democratic president (like Bill Clinton) actually turning our deficit into a surplus.

Janice, it's not a Republican at any cost, it's just anyone but Obama. If any halfway decent Dem had the cojones to run against him, they'd win.

I bet Joe Bunda will see the light and vote for The Great One, Barack Hussein Obama to be President for another 4 years!

Why is everyone picking on Bunda all of the time lately? What are you guys, 12 years old? Seriously, this is getting to be worse than high school with all of the immature bullying.

Janice, unfortunately it was not one man who created this mess. Your "brother" Barney Frank and his band of criminals sure weren't innocent, were they? As for Obama "not being able to move a bread crumb" - you fail to acknowledge that Obama had the majority in BOTH HOUSES for TWO YEARS.

Janice, you're just blinded by your own bias. I'm no fan of Newt and don't really care for Mitt. However, I simply can't stand the principles that Obama believes in (assuming there are any principles there to begin with). So, yes - I'll take the least worst option, and in this case my own opinion is that Obama is clearly the worst.

Perhaps if your spilled milk were not sour neither would you be.

Pghgirl, they pick on Bunda because he's like a blog general. He has extensive data banks and can provide 10 links to prove his point or disprove theirs. So they take potshots at him.

*t is painfully obvious that Republicans' only aim is acquiring and weilding power. Because of their obstructionism and ideoligical obstinacy, the working class and poor continue their slide into serfdom. That they have managed to convince educationally-deficient poor whites that they too may one day become members of the elite 1% is a masterstroke. Heaven help America.

...
written by PghGirl412, February 14, 2012 - 09:48 AM


Why is everyone picking on Bunda all of the time lately? What are you guys, 12 years old? Seriously, this is getting to be worse than high school with all of the immature bullying.

Yes. Poor Bunda. All of his insults and name-calling clearly identify him as a paragon of mature discourse.

written by graywolf, February 14, 2012 - 10:10 AM

Pghgirl, they pick on Bunda because he's like a blog general. He has extensive data banks and can provide 10 links to prove his point or disprove theirs. So they take potshots at him.

LOl Bunda like a lot of others likes political fabrication.

Deke the geek, It's a standard tactic of warfare, you take out the officers first. Bunda is an officer, so he's a target of your snipers.

Could the contraception issue sink the GOP in November. Seemingly old republicans are siding with Catholic bishops also old men on women's health.

Sen Blount has proposed allowing all employers not just those with religious affiliation the right to refuse health insurance for contraceptive materials and services.

Immediately two moderate GOP senators Susan Collins ans Olympia Snow saw red lights and backed away.

What are republicans thinking. It is safe to say that just about 100% of sexually active women in this country use some form of birth control. This anti- women's health position will surely spell defeat for the GOP in November. Women vote, and as was evident in 2008, when there is a women's issue, they are energized and turn out in large numbers.

Then there is Rick Santorum. Rick would like to see a return to yesteryear when all women stayed home, had babies and raised their children.

Santorum is on record as being opposed to contraceptives. He said "contraceptives are bad for America". Santorum also believes abortion should be criminalized.

In 2008 70% of women under the age of 29 (these would be sexually active women)voted for Obama. The old men in the GOP seem hell bent on increasing those numbers.

it was not Barack Obama who created this mess -- it was your man


True enough, I suppose, but your man -- Our Dear Reader -- took a bad situation and made it so very much worse, something else your letter fails to address.

Yeah, stopping the hemorrhaging of job losses at 750,000 per month that started under your hero bush and continued into the Obama presidency, and then turning it into 23 months of positive job growth is "making it worse" only in the delusional, fact-denying minds of the teaparty/neocon/republican right. Unemployment is down, despite the right's micro-analyzing of it and coming up with all kinds of excuses for why it really isn't (none of which applied to the bush administration when it went from 4% to 8.1%)

written by code red, February 14, 2012 - 08:43 AM

Well, Janice the reason why the Republicans wanted to make Obama a one term president from the get-go is because they knew the socialist path this radical man was wanted to take our country down.

And judging by his re-distribution plan, disregard for the constitution, class ware, pitting Americans against one another, etc., I think they knew this man well.

Ah, yes, when all else fails throw out those right wing terms: socialist, constitution, class warfare (what no Founding Fathers?).

Was it class warfare when all the republican governors and legislatures swept in in 2010 started attacking the public unions, particularly teachers? When they went after collective bargaining and blamed public unions for all the economic woes? It didn't start to be called class warfare until we started fighting back. And the class warfare that Scott Walker imposed in WI backfired big time - and not only with his recall. WI has the worst jobs record in the country with 6 straight months of job losses. That's what happens when you begin class warfare against the middle class. He refused stimulus money that would have created jobs but is taking the $143 million in foreclosure settlement money and instead of using it for the homeowners as intended he is using it to shore up his budget deficit 2 days after saying it was balanced. Now that is class warfare.

If he is not the "typical" insider in Washington, why is he in bed with lobbylists and why has he taken more money from Wall Street than ANY OTHER presidential candidate???

Not true, do try to keep up.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politic.../id/429239

I'll agree that the spending started with Bush but Obama did not make it any better but made it TRILLIONS of dollars WORSE.

Despite my explaining this several times, it is obvious that some people still don't get it - or refuse to. When Pres. Obama took office in January 2009, all the spending on bush's programs did not come to an end. The cost of the wars, the tax cuts and medicare part D continued to increase the debt as did the recession that started under bush. This did not miraculously disappear. The recession has been the biggest part of the increasing debt with fewer taxes being taken in (thanks to the tax cuts to the wealthy) and more government aid being needed by those hurting. The best way to decrease the debt is to get people working and put more money into the hands of the middle class, who are the actual job creators when they create demand. The GOP solution of cutting taxes and spending is a job killer.

written by PghGirl412, February 14, 2012 - 09:48 AM


Why is everyone picking on Bunda all of the time lately? What are you guys, 12 years old? Seriously, this is getting to be worse than high school with all of the immature bullying.

I know you and Bunda are bff's on here -each supporting each other's flawed and inaccurate posts, what with your convuluted "plus voted posts are lies" but "minus posts are facts" and associated conspriacy theories about that, but really, coming to the defense of the biggest insulter, fact-denier on here, and calling others immature and bullies is a stretch, even for you.

Something that would be very helpful here would be some LTE about mental health issues. The forum discussion following could be really enlightening for some here

The Monster of OL
In a secret lab beneath the Clark building, the creature was put together. The mad doctor used the imagery of Chuck Norris as the creature’s foundation. He added eye of Newt, essence of Ted Nugent, a sprinkle of Bill O’Lielly. A dash of Limbaugh and a pinch of Savage. The pot was stirred. The gurney where the creature lay was raised up to the skylight by Billy Bob, the doctor’s gnome assistant. The gnome rubbed his hands together in expectation. The thunder and lightning snapped, crackled and popped. The lightening rod was struck by one horrible bolt of nature’s electricity. Huge sparks of electricity leaped about the creature’s body. The gnome cackled with glee as he lowered the gurney by pulling on the opposite chain. Once lowered, the creature was covered in a dark smoke. The smell of burnt flesh hung heavily in the air.
The mad doctor who bore a strange resemblance to Krusty the Clown shouted, “It’s alive, it’s alive Billy.” He then quickly added a half a tea spoon of Sanctimonious Ricky to the creature, insuring the creatures more bizarre blog posts.
He called the creature Bundastein. The doctor, pleased with his success, spun around on his clown shoes and began to dance with himself. Music played in the back ground as the doctor swayed with the tempo. Connie Francis sang “Everybody’s Somebody’s Fool.”
Fade to credits: A posthumous apology to Mary Shelley
This message would never be approved by the Koch Brothers, Rance Prebus, and the GOP/Tea Party. And those politicians from Ohio who like to dress up in WWII Nazi uniforms.

Deke, I cannot stop laughing!!!!!

The most quoted speech at CPAC this year was Mitt Romney's, but my vote for the most significant goes to Grover Norquist's.

They have reconciled themselves to a Romney candidacy because they see Romney as essentially a weak and passive president who will concede leadership to congressional conservatives.

“All we have to do is replace Obama. ... We are not auditioning for a fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. ... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate.”

Norquist’s requirement for president?

Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States.

So much for the "Shining City on the Hill.

Very funny post Deke.

No one "mentioned" that the payroll "tax" covers SS and no one also DIDN'T mention that in dec.2011, Obama and Senate dems. snuck a hidden homeownwers tax into the payroll tax extension.

For the next ten years,anyone that purchases or re-finances will pay dearly for the 2 month payroll extension.

The $35 BILLION collected in fees WON'T go back to the SS fund to replace the lost payroll tax. It goes to the general treasury where Congress can spend it however they want.

Which begs the question - what kind of HIDDEN tax Obama and Senate dems. will spring on the middle class in order to continue payroll tax cuts??

Sally, you certainly don't seem to have a problem with those left wing terms - terrorists, extremists and racists, just to mention a few, do you?

Ah, yes, when all else fails throw out those right wing terms: socialist, constitution, class warfare (what no Founding Fathers?).

Ah, yes, when all else fails bring out Grover and the Koch Boys.

Norquist’s requirement for president?

ABO.

written by suss1960, February 14, 2012 - 12:12 PM

Deke, I cannot stop laughing!!!!!

Har-dee-har-har (knee slap) !!!!!!

written by PghGirl412, February 14, 2012 - 12:08 PM


Something that would be very helpful here would be some LTE about mental health issues. The forum discussion following could be really enlightening for some here

Yeah, we could start with graywolf's take on the mental health industry followed by the phantom diagnoses from his phantom Dr. Sebastian Bongaius from the prestigious John's Hopkins School of Psychiatry.

greywolf, Bunda doesn't need to be sniped. He shoots himself in the foot quite nicely. If he's your general, you guys are in deep doo doo.

But yeah, 412, I really should stop teasing Bunda. I'll make an effort to respond to his diatribes with sweet reason in the future, even when he calls me a commie.

Hmmm ... the Red Mermaid? That has possibilities!

I also will make an effort to respond to his diatribes with sweet reason in the future, even when he accuses me of being involved in murder.

"And just remember, an American who happened to be a member of the Communist Party USA - one of your own, no doubt- did assassinate a U.S. President."

written by Joe Bunda, January 29, 2012 - 08:09 PM


Aw forget it. Bunda is simply a condescening freak. Who in their right mind uses words like “comrade”, “beloved”, and “dear” ?

I am beginning to think that Joe Bunda is really a progressive. He gets so much attention for his outrageous statements, that it sounds as if he wants the reader to believe that he is a Buffoon. Perhaps he wants the "brown shirts" to look really bad by under minding them everyday. If true, he is doing a good job as he sounds like he has a giant "W" painted on his forehead. Will the real Joe Bunda please stand up! - I will have to read Deke's monumental post again - Classic!

Huff Post, Jan. 26,2012 - More Wisconsin voters approve of the job Govr. Walker is doing than disapprove.

According to Chief Executive magazine Wisconsin's business has improved from 43rd to 17th since Gov. Walker was elected. He closed the $3 billion deficit he inherited without raising taxes.

In the 2008 campaign Obama received $30 billion from WS compared to thw $21 billion McCain received. He got more from WS thanany other candidate ever.

Quite getting your "facts" from AttackWatch.com, Sally.

For the next ten years,anyone that purchases or re-finances will pay dearly for the 2 month payroll extension

That's funny because my son and dil just got approved for a mortgage on a house valued at twice their current house value but with about half the interest rate they are currently paying. So the new mortgage payments are not much higher than what they pay now. So if this is "paying dearly" they'll take it.

written by Mermaid, February 14, 2012 - 12:30 PM

But yeah, 412, I really should stop teasing Bunda. I'll make an effort to respond to his diatribes with sweet reason in the future, even when he calls me a commie.

Hmmm ... the Red Mermaid? That has possibilities!

Just remember - the title of Partisan Queen is already taken.

Just remember - the title of Partisan Queen is already taken.

Now wait just a gol-durn minute here, Sal! I thought we agreed to share the title on a rotating basis throughout the week

Bundastein Epilogue
The Doc had outsourced the monster's neck bolt to a Chi com company. Delivery was never made. The creatures head was held in place by carter pins and extra large safety pins.
The creature was last seen with a half eaten Parmenti cheese steak sandwich, sitting under the Hot Metal Bridge with a bottle of YAHOO.

In the 2008 campaign Obama received $30 billion from WS compared to thw $21 billion McCain received. He got more from WS thanany other candidate ever.

Quite getting your "facts" from AttackWatch.com, Sally.

That was so 4 years ago. Like I said, do try to keep up.

written by code red, February 14, 2012 - 01:05 PM

Huff Post, Jan. 26,2012 - More Wisconsin voters approve of the job Govr. Walker is doing than disapprove.

It's within the margin of error. Additionally, over 1 million signed the recall effort - more than voted in the election. They are hardly going to turn around and vote for Walker. Time will tell. He is vulnerable but I'm sure the Koch brothers will dump tons of money to keep him.

http://www.laborradio.org/Chan...ID=1628237

http://www.wisdems.org/news/pr...-to-recall

written by little_minx, February 14, 2012 - 01:16 PM


Just remember - the title of Partisan Queen is already taken.


Now wait just a gol-durn minute here, Sal! I thought we agreed to share the title on a rotating basis throughout the week

...

Okay, you can have it today, if you like. I'll gladly relinquish the title for 6 days a week.

You are a gracious co-Queen, Sal!

written by little_minx, February 14, 2012 - 01:24 PM

You are a gracious co-Queen, Sal!

Thank you, but I'm keeping the crown.

Thank you, but I'm keeping the crown.

Nope. Each of us gets her own crown

written by little_minx, February 14, 2012 - 01:29 PM


Thank you, but I'm keeping the crown.


Nope. Each of us gets her own crown

Fair enough, but mine is diamonds and sapphires (blue, of course, what else?)

Fair enough, but mine is diamonds and sapphires (blue, of course, what else?)

Oh, I figured that since this was the P-G, our crowns would be encrusted in emeralds, in honor of the color of the newspaper's logo.

Go back to Reg on Wry with your little love fest.

I'm sure the Koch brothers will dump tons of money to keep him.

Along with the unions who laid of their own members to pay for it. Har-dee-har-har.

suss1960
Thanks.
My take on Joe is different. He is very intelligent. I think he believes what he posts. More times he is over the top, but I defend his right to post like I would everyone elses.

Freudian psychoanalysis of anti-social psychosis in blogger types. By Dr Sebastian Bongaius.

Sally: Obsessive compulsive. Utterly humorless. Obsessed with the current president as a messianic, Human/deity figure. Possibly manipulating the +/- post vote by hacking into computer system but cannot be proven.

Racer: Also obsessive, borderline psychotic. Previous opinion was that R was obsessed with Ironman and watching his every move. Fixation of R now directed at Bunda. Very common rotation of obsessive fixation.

Mermaid: Simple, easily led, a follower not a leader.
will repeat ad nauseum phraseology such as "republicans hate old people and children" without offering any evidence to claim. Merely heard someone else say it and it sounded cool. Also accuses others of being anecdotal but never even offers anecdote to back her claims.

Deke: Male version of mermaid. D does display moderate capacity for creative humor.

Bracing for return fire, Y'all

written by little_minx, February 14, 2012 - 01:46 PM


Fair enough, but mine is diamonds and sapphires (blue, of course, what else?)


Oh, I figured that since this was the P-G, our crowns would be encrusted in emeralds, in honor of the color of the newspaper's logo.

Emeralds work for me, too. They're my favorite jewel and I love green for the Irish. So, go Irish!
Here's to all the Patrisan Queens - may we wear the title and crown proudly. May the partisan road rise up to meet us, and may the wind of truth always be at our backs.

Deke, I do agree that Joe is intelligent and I actually like him - He is a real card! Perhaps, he is wasting his talent, after all; there is so much material on George W. Bush and I think he would have a field day, everyday! -- C'mon Joe, Join the winning team - We will defend everything you say and cheer you on like there's no tomorrow! Wipe the slate clean.

greywolf: His posts consist of regurgitated Fox News talking points and tired racist dog whistles. Suffers from delusions of persecution. Constantly calls people "socialists" and "communists" but doesn't seem to know what these things really are -- only that they are Bad Words for Bad People!

written by graywolf, February 14, 2012 - 02:04 PM

Freudian psychoanalysis of anti-social psychosis in blogger types. By Dr Sebastian Bongaius.

graywolf: Inventor of fictitious Dr. Sebastian Bongaius*, poster of creepy and irrational comments, denier of mental health illnesses**, creditor of wrong posts to wrong people*** and as a result someone with zero credibility.

* "You are correct Sally that the doctor was my invention and attempt at satire." graywolf - 10/28/2011.

**"given how the left constantly pushes and promotes the mental health industrial complex,-everyone should talk to the quacks/med school flunky psychiatrists from toddlers to 90 year olds and everyone in between (post-partum women to war veterans) ADHD, bipolar, cognitive behavioral therapy, blah, blah, blah" - graywolf 10/28/2011)

*** "Sally, blog friend, I'm just trying to see something here. You have railed against the expanding power and influence of UPMC in these blogs" graywolf - 10/28/2011

The truth being that I made no such posts about UPMC and didn't post anything about them at all. Obviously his severly impaired mind had me confused with someone else.

And this is who posts as if his "analyses" of others are valid?

Like I said utterly humorless Sally, you need to take a pill, chill and relax!

I'm tellin ya sally, if your guy loses in november, you may seriously need a head doctor.

written by LeBro, February 14, 2012 - 09:38 AM I bet Joe Bunda will see the light and vote for The Great One, Barack Hussein Obama to be President for another 4 years!

Go ahead and bet the farm. I have no doubt that you'll figure out a way to stick it to the taxpayers with your losses.

written by Boffyflow, February 14, 2012 - 10:47 AM Yes. Poor Bunda. All of his insults and name-calling clearly identify him as a paragon of mature discourse

Our sage and mature BuffyBlow 25 years a "teacher", "educator", a shill for DNC agitprop, on the public payroll, which by his very own definition, makes him a public official open to any and all criticisms that *HE* flings at Republicans in general and conservatives in particular.

written by Racer, February 14, 2012 - 12:46 PM I also will make an effort to respond to his diatribes with sweet reason in the future, even when he accuses me of being involved in murder

Nice try, comrade Racist: why don't you go back and re-read my post again. We know you lefties are adept at taking things out of context and surely your dour sense of humor is infamous. Fact is, comrade Racist, you and your ilk can dish it out but can't take it, in true, pristine liberal fashion.

written by suss1960, February 14, 2012 - 01:02 PM I am beginning to think that Joe Bunda is really a progressive.

Who told you that? Our dear, beloved comrade Spock?

written by Mermaid, February 14, 2012 - 02:35 PM greywolf: His posts consist of regurgitated Fox News talking points and tired racist dog whistles.

"Dog whistle". Think that term up yourself? Or perhaps you quite recently gleaned it from YOUR side's "talking points? Hmmm?

And Mermaid, If you would like to discuss at length any of these right vs left conflicts from the last 100 years, I'm ready to go.

-World war I, prelude and post.
-The bolshevik revolution
-The stalinist purges
-Weimar era germany and the rise of Hitler and nazism
-The roots of the holocaust
-the spanish civil war 1936-1939.

I didn't get this knowledge from Fox news, lil miss.

And WHEN your guy loses in November, graywolf?

"Dog whistle"

Here's an in-house source:
http://blogs.sites.post-gazett...-of-winter

written by graywolf, February 14, 2012 - 03:01 PM

Like I said utterly humorless Sally, you need to take a pill, chill and relax!

I'm tellin ya sally, if your guy loses in november, you may seriously need a head doctor.

I survived eight years of the bush regime. I think I could handle another inept and failed GOP president.

I'm sorry the truth hurts, graywolf, but it appears that it is you, based on your irrational posts, that is the one in need of therapy. Like I said, over a year ago, when I first joined here, I was sorting out who was who - liberal, conservative, etc.. and I made a mental note that you were irrational. Nothing you have posted since then has changed that opinion. And if you think your invented characters belies some kind of sense of humor on your part, then you need to reassess what a sense of humor is. I am fine with mine.

Greywolf, you forgot to note the phenomena of "contagious hysterical misinformation" affecting so many of the libs here. They have the audacity (or perhaps the ignorance) to criticize Fox while citing Media Matters. (D'oh! If any of them do bother to read a few real news sources, they should have lots of egg on their faces this week)

There also seems to be some sort of liberal Tourette's where they just have to bring up Fox every 10 seconds even though nobody on the thread has cited Fox for anything. No matter what facts are presented, the libs want to dismiss them as "Fox fallacies" regardless of the actual source like some sort of weird lefty tic.

Likewise there's the narcissism complex displayed when they post "proof" by way of links to Wikipedia, ThinkProgress & random unknown blogs, while simultaneously insisting that all other sources are partisan shills lacking credibility, no examples required.

And heaven forbid someone with a vocabulary beyond 8th grade English skills posts to a thread. They'll immediately be attacked as condescending & arrogant. But that's no shock because narcissism & an inferiority complex do sometimes go hand-in-hand

Minx, if that happens, I'll continue to fight the good fight. But Obama part II will succeed in its "fundamentally transforming" policy, I'm sure.

Sally, I know the score.
According to a study done by quacks-RACISM IS MENTAL ILLNESS.

Whereas a corollary: ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH THE PRESIDENT AND HIS POLICIES IS NOW LABELED RACISM.

AND the charged is guilty until proven innocent.

AND denial of condition is proof of illness.

I have no doubt that in Obama part II, I'll be going to a mental hospital.

written by little_minx, February 14, 2012 - 03:15 PM

"Dog whistle"

Here's an in-house source:
http://blogs.sites.post-gazett...-of-winter

No. Nice try. Thanks for playing and please try again soon.

PS - Note the "quite recently gleaned" part of my post.

Awright! Joe B, Pghgirl, I think we whupped em. Stopped the charge for today.

written by graywolf, February 14, 2012 - 03:35 PM

Sally, I know the score.
According to a study done by quacks-RACISM IS MENTAL ILLNESS

Maybe that's part of your problem. You are depending on quacks to form your opinions. What level of expertise do you have that allows for your uniform dismissal of all the diagnoses of mental illness from post partum depression, to post traumatic stress syndrome, to ADHD, as blah, blah, blah?

The American Psychiatric Association has never officially recognized extreme racism (as opposed to ordinary prejudice) as a mental health problem, although the issue was raised more than 30 years ago

Yes, that was so 4 years ago Sally but 4 years ago is what I was referring to.

According to study by Sunlight Founders Influence Project-"despite his rhetorical attacks on Wall Street, Obama has received more from WS than any other politician over the last 20 years, and that includes George W. Bush."

Yes, so far in this current campaign thay are now backing Romney and you can bet that the Dems. will be boo-hooing about that. It was OK when Obamy was raking it in from WS, now it will be a different story.

CBS News, Feb.6,2012 - "Hidden" mortage fee paying for payroll tax cut."

New fees are a minimum of one-tenth of 1% on FM and FM backed mortages, and is likely to go MUCH HIGHER. It will be imposed for the next ten years and it lasts for the life of the loan.

"It's actually built into the interest rate. You would never see the fee as a cost to you" - President of Virginia Assoc. of Mortage Bankers. "It will affect a large number of homeowners."

The Obama administration called the fee "modest."

Whether or not it is modest is NOT the point. The point is that it was a sneaky move by The-Liar-in-Chief and his lying administration.

It will be phased in over the next two years.

So, I guess Sally, that is why your son who just "happened" to buy a house (just as we are talking about a mortage tax,LOL) just hadn't been hit with it yet!

"Koch brothers will dump tons of money to keep him.". (gov Walker).

Would that be the same as Soros dumping tons of money to keep Obama????

Likewise there's the narcissism complex displayed when they post "proof" by way of links to Wikipedia, ThinkProgress & random unknown blogs, while simultaneously insisting that all other sources are partisan shills lacking credibility, no examples required.

Coming from someone who never posts any facts but instead a lot of rhetoric, just like this post. Unable to disprove what we liberals post you, and your fellow cons, revert to the following (among other failed tactics)

1) change the subject - diversionary tactic
2) kill the messenger (insults) - when you can't disprove the message
3) deny all facts outright. With nothing to back up the denials, of course.

They don't work, but you keep on trying the same thing over and over again. That's the definition of insanity.

[url=Albert Einstein Quotes Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. http://www.brainyquote.com/quo...z1mOKp9dNH

Dog whistle"

Here's an in-house source:
http://blogs.sites.post-gazett...-of-winter

No.

You're denying that it's there (the lead topic, in fact), and in that context? If so, you need to reconnect with reality.

Sure, wolfie, I'd be happy to discuss history.

What's your opinion on how the Imperial German High Command planned and carried out the initial attack on France via the Low Countries in WWI? Do you think that their successful invasion during the Franco-Prussian war of 1871 had any bearing on their assessment of its success? How did the Franco-Prussian war affect the conduct of WWI, anyhow? Some historians claim that the Prussian aristocrats deliberately led Germany into a war in order to whip up patriotic support for the government after gains by leftist parties in earlier elections; do you find this theory plausible or do you blame Kaiser Wilhelm and the Austrians for the whole sorry mess? War fever struck both rightist and leftist leaders in France as well, with the exception of socialist leader Jean Jaures; are the French also to blame for the war's outbreak? Should the British have stayed out of it?

Let's move on to the Russian Civil War. Was it inevitable? How would you characterize the infighting that went on between the various Red factions? Do you think that American and British assistance for the Whites poisoned any relationship that America might have had with the Bolsheviks?

In your opinion, was the Weimar Republic doomed from the start due to the burden that war reparations had on Germany's economy? Going back a bit further, do you think the treaty of Versailles laid the seeds for the next global war -- or was another European war inevitable given that the Great War had not really settled things to everyone's satisfaction? How much influence did right and left-wing paramilitary groups have on its rise and demise?

Tracing the historical roots of the Holocaust, there is a consistent strain of anti-Semitism in Europe and especially Germany. Of course it took a fair amount of propaganda to convince Germans to murder their Jewish neighbors. Perhaps you could comment on the techniques of Goebbels and how they have been used as a model since then to scapegoat various unpopular groups?

As for the Spanish Civil War, we sometimes forget that it's Franco who was part of the insurgency against the legitimate government of Spain. Do you feel that his subsequent repressive and authoritarian regime (dictatorship, censorship, incarceration and torture of political dissidents, executions, etc.) is the template for subsequent right-wing autocracies?

written by graywolf, February 14, 2012 - 03:43 PM

Awright! Joe B, Pghgirl, I think we whupped em. Stopped the charge for today.

In your delusional dreams, graywolf. Keep dreaming and keep checking in with those quacks, maybe they've heard of Dr. Sebastian Bongaius. And you said I didn't have a sense of humor.

written by little_minx, February 14, 2012 - 03:54 PM You're denying that it's there (the lead topic, in fact), and in that context? If so, you need to reconnect with reality

Truth be told, the link's page didn't fully load. All I saw was the sterling silver (I assume) whistle. Hence my comment.

My my, mermaid, I am impressed. So I know now I can reference all those periods with you and you have a background already, very good.

Just to start one for today, The result of the franco prussian war- french defeat and the loss of the provinces of Alsace-Lorraine, caused the french command to hurl millions of men into machine guns in a desperate attempt to reclaim that northern stretch of france that the germans took in 1914.

Good girl! If we ever have time, I have a new graywolf thesis on the roots of the holocaust. It's mine from research, and hasn't been written before that I know. It ties everything together. Some other day.

Mermaid, I am impressed, too. Good job.

WOW Sally, I don't think you realize that you just described to a tee what the libs. and Dems. do all the time.

Sounds as though all the "suff" you spoke of is right out if Saul Alinsky's Rules forRadicals.

And we know he is truly a hero to those of you on the left.

My my, mermaid, I am impressed.

Mermaid, I am impressed, too. Good job.

Yep, quite impressive! The questions you posed gave me a direction to go and read up on some stuff. Thanks for the post!

Yes, both France and Germany were fighting the previous war -- as so often seems to happen. In its context and aftermath they were like fish who swim in the sea without realizing how it shapes them. Both were also guilty of wishful thinking. Something to think about when considering how to respond to any sort of hostilities.

greywolf
In 1919 the Allies powers and Germany signed the Treaty of Versailles officially ending WWI. To reach the next plateau and a box of Mighty Dog Flea Powder, what was most significant about this treaty.
Ahhh, I give it to you: The Germans were so humiliated by this treaty that the seeds were planted for WWII.

One contention Mermaid, pre WWI germany WAS NOT anti semitic. On the contrary, It was a rather liberal society with integration in society. That's a piece of the puzzle. Polish and russian society was far more anti semitic. How did germany turn so far the other way? There were jewish officers in the kaiser's army after all.

Like I said, my thesis works all these events together. Here's a teaser: It covers pittsburgh slavic steel workers-how they came here, the communist revolutions, the war and sex, rumor and even satanic worship! I'm not kidding. That's not just there to get your attention. But it does keep you interested, eh?

Sounds as though all the "suff" you spoke of is right out if Saul Alinsky's Rules forRadicals.

Who's he?

Mermaid, I must say: The Moon is all yours on this day!! Your History is accurate and complete - Well Done!..... Good close by Deke and I might add that the "Flea Powder" Treaty upset our 28th president as he warned against the takings of lands - This and the failing attempt to start the League of Nations gave Wilson a stroke.

Let it be noted that Sally did not address the HIDDEN tax issue or the FACT that Obamby had received more from WS than other politician in the last 20 YEARS (goes against the left's lie that only Republicans are in bed with WS).

When Sally can't dispute the FACTS, she just ignores them.

Who os Alinsky? So what, now you in DENIAL!

written by code red, February 14, 2012 - 05:40 PM

Let it be noted that Sally did not address the HIDDEN tax issue or the FACT that Obamby had received more from WS than other politician in the last 20 YEARS (goes against the left's lie that only Republicans are in bed with WS).

As I've posted before (copy for future reference so you don't need to ask again): It's not the money from Wall Street that concerns me - it is the legislation that is promoted that does. If Pres. Obama takes Wall Street money and they hate him then he is doing a good job, IMO. I support more oversight (regulations) of the financial industry and so does Pres. Obama. Dodds-Frank is hated by Wall Street, weakned as it is. But it's a start.

As for the "hidden" fee - how hidden was it if you found it? And apparantly it isn't that big of a deal because I haven't heard any of the GOP mouthpieces yapping about it.

But speaking of yapping I did hear Gingrich mention that Alinsky guy in some pathetic, failed attempt to tie Pres. Obama to him. Must have worked well, his poll numbers are tanking.

And speaking of Gingrich yapping about Alinsky - hot off the press:

The Gingrich campaign continues to name drop Saul Alinsky without explaining who Saul Alinsky actually is. So when voters click to the Gingrich-funded LiberalsLoveRomney.com -- released today -- they'll probably assume that the gentlemen with the cartoon-ishly large head and accompanying speech bubble that says "He likes my book!" is Bill Ayers' father-in-law. Well played. [LiberalsLoveRomney.com]

Gingrich has a website showing others with big heads? Wow, talk about pot - kettle.

the socialist path this radical man was wanted to take our country down.

I always like hearing what constitutes "socialism" in the eyes of the far right. The most socialist thing he's done so far is to support a health care plan that was originally authored by Republicans Dole and Chaffee and then deployed in Massachusetts by the leading (for the moment) Republican candidate for the Presidency.

Good girl! If we ever have time, I have a new graywolf thesis on the roots of the holocaust. It's mine from research, and hasn't been written before that I know. It ties everything together. Some other day

Wolf - I'd love to read your thesis. How about later tonight or early tomorrow morning?

What a train wreck of a letter...

More Wisconsin voters approve of the job Govr. Walker is doing than disapprove.

Um, OK, unproven, but even if true, I'm not sure how much it does the Republicans if he's in prison....
http://www.truth-out.org/wisco...1329245664

...
written by code red, February 14, 2012 - 04:30 PM

WOW Sally, I don't think you realize that you just described to a tee what the libs. and Dems. do all the time.

Actually it describes the GOP to a "tea", with their continued push for a 30 year failed "supply-side, trickle down, voodoo economics, give more tax cuts to the rich" policy which hasn't worked but for which they keep expecting different results.

From the PG:

Tax me, I'm rich

David Gershon at Daily Kos: "Nick Hanauer is a very rich, wildly successful business man. His company, aQuantive, was purchased by Microsoft in 2007 for $6.4 billion. ... Hanauer also, it seems, both understands and is willing to articulate what most of our country's wealthiest citizens refuse to acknowledge: that it is the middle class which creates jobs through demand, and that our country's richest members of society need to be paying more in taxes so as not to undercut and destroy those Americans who ultimately determine our nation's economic health."

Mr. Gershon goes on to quote Mr. Hanauer:

"There's this idea in our society that rich people are job creators, and if you tax them more, then they'll create less jobs. This is simply a misunderstanding of how the economy works -- it's actually the middle class that creates the jobs with the demand that forces businesses to increase employment. ...

"Look, corporate profits are at a 50-year high, while unemployment is also at a 50-year high. If it was true that the rich and business were the job creators, we'd be drowning in jobs today."


Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg...1mP1YOB42

But the GOP keeps on pushing it, thus the definition of insanity.

Code

Here's some facts on that "mortgage tax"


The new fee increase would amount to about $15 a month more for a $200,000 mortgage, according to a senior Democratic official.

That's $180 a year, or $360 a year for a $400,000 mortgage. Homeowners would have the fee hike built into their loan -- the mortgage provider would then send that extra revenue to the Treasury.

The idea behind the fee is to encourage more homeowners to get into the private market, as opposed to seeking loans backed by troubled entities like Fannie and Freddie.



Here's the source
http://www.foxnews.com/politic...-cut-deal/

The Senate vote for the payroll tax cut extension was 89-10. The House is GOP controlled. If the Dems snuck that in, the GOP has only itself to blame for not reading the damn bill.

The payroll tax cut does not affect the money going to the SS Trust Fund. That is being made up out of general revenues. So, no, the Dems are not working to destroy SS as someone claimed.

written by Spock, February 14, 2012 - 06:20 PM

the socialist path this radical man was wanted to take our country down.

I always like hearing what constitutes "socialism" in the eyes of the far right.

You would do better to concern yourself how the ordinary Americans define "socialism" socialism: the government control/ownership of the means of production.

The most socialist thing he's done so far is to support a health care plan that was originally authored by Republicans Dole and Chaffee and then deployed in Massachusetts by the leading (for the moment) Republican candidate for the Presidency.

We can safely surmise that you were asleep, and/or in rehab for "Bush/Palin/GOP Derangement Syndrome" and/or out of country when Our Dear Reader took over GMC/Chrysler.

Oh, and too bad your beloved Solyndra didn't pan out too well.

We can hope, however, that you are enjoying driving around your "40 mile" Volt.

Anyone But Obama.

The truth of the matter:

• There should have been a republican front runner by now. There is none.

• Republicans just can’t wrap their arms around any of the candidates.

And there you have it, Tuesday February 14, 2012, the beginning of the end of the Grand Obstructionist Party.

As a sidebar, no one is asking for Bush's endorsement. Perhaps they would be best having an amber moment with people getting too close with touchy feely moments.

written by Racer, February 14, 2012 - 08:10 PM • There should have been a republican front runner by now. There is none.

Yeah, so what? That's why they're called primaries.

Republicans just can’t wrap their arms around any of the candidates.

Again, so what? We all think that the 2012 election is in *November*.

As a sidebar, no one is asking for Bush's endorsement. Perhaps they would be best having an amber moment with people getting too close with touchy feely moments

Just as any one seeking office and/or re-election was/is running to Obama for assistance. Say, just how many state governorships, just to name one category, flipped to the GOP under Our Dear Reader? I personally like Obama's "I implore you." in Ohio in the following link. How'd that turn out?

http://tinyurl.com/8xase8o

And why no mention of the 2010 midterm "shellacking", to use Our Dear Reader's term?

That sure is some "begininng of the end", comrade Racist.

Pssst! Sally. They call it a "hidden" tax because it is esentially hidden from the HOMEOWNERS that are buying or refinancing. They won't really know there is indeed, an additional tax.

If it is only a "modest" tax, why isn't it called what it is - a TAX and not built (hidden) in the loan??

The truth of the matter:

• There should have been a republican front runner by now. There is none.

• Republicans just can’t wrap their arms around any of the candidates.

And there you have it, Tuesday February 14, 2012, the beginning of the end of the Grand Obstructionist Party.

The truth of the matter:

• Look to Super Tuesday, March 6th.

• Presidential candidates get the nod at the convention.

And there you have it, Tuesday November 6, 2012, the beginning of the end of the Dumbocrat Party.

Putting all name calling aside, how many of you voted in the previous Presidential election? In the off year election? Just curious, and I've never missed an election since I attained suffrage at age 21. That's 41 years. Not looking for a hero button, just sayin'....if you don't vote, don't complain later.

And there you have it, Tuesday November 6, 2012, the beginning of the end of the Dumbocrat Party.

Not so quick. President Obama's poll numbers are up and he beats each GOP contender.

written by wop2, February 15, 2012 - 06:10 AM

Putting all name calling aside, how many of you voted in the previous Presidential election? In the off year election? Just curious, and I've never missed an election since I attained suffrage at age 21. That's 41 years. Not looking for a hero button, just sayin'....if you don't vote, don't complain later.

I've never missed voting in a primary or general election since I became eligible to vote, and like you, that's been 40 years.

And there you have it, Tuesday November 6, 2012, the beginning of the end of the Dumbocrat Party.

This doesn't exactly help your credibility.

We can safely surmise that you were asleep, and/or in rehab for "Bush/Palin/GOP Derangement Syndrome" and/or out of country when Our Dear Reader took over GMC/Chrysler.

In December 2008, U.S. President George W. Bush agreed to a $17.4 billion bailout for General Motors and Chrysler. The financing came from the $700 billion fund known as the TARP.[4] General Motors emerged from a Chapter 11 reorganization in 2009, with an initial public offering that was one of the world`s top 5 largest IPOs to date.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors

Oh, and too bad your beloved Solyndra didn't pan out too well.

I understand, Joe -- you're against any efforts to keep high-tech manufacturing in the US. Do I have that right?

written by code red, February 14, 2012 - 10:16 PM

Pssst! Sally. They call it a "hidden" tax because it is esentially hidden from the HOMEOWNERS that are buying or refinancing. They won't really know there is indeed, an additional tax.

Those of you on the right blamed the home buyers for the housing bust because you claimed they didn't know what they were signing but should have. Now the home buyers get a free pass on not knowing what they are signing?

Waiting for your answer as to how this hidden fee got past the GOP controlled House without their approval.

Not so quick. President Obama's poll numbers are up and he beats each GOP contender.

Not so fast. PBO's approval rating is around 50%. If Romney gets the nod (he will), PBO will not get the swing vote this time around.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121...roups.aspx

Not so fast. PBO's approval rating is around 50%. If Romney gets the nod (he will), PBO will not get the swing vote this time around

The following different polls all show Pres. Obama leading Romney (I'm not sure how well this will post in this format). Additionally, independent women voters are a big voting bloc and after the whole Komen and Church birth control issue - they are going for Pres. Obama.


RCP Average

1/27 - 2/13

--

48.8

43.1

Obama +5.7



CBS News/NY Times

2/8 - 2/13

1604 RV

48

42

Obama +6



PPP (D)

2/9 - 2/12

1200 RV

49

42

Obama +7



Pew Research

2/8 - 2/12

1172 RV

52

44

Obama +8



Rasmussen Tracking

2/11 - 2/13

1500 LV

49

42

Obama +7



FOX News

2/6 - 2/9

1110 RV

47

42

Obama +5



Reuters/Ipsos

2/2 - 2/6

881 RV

48

42

Obama +6



ABC News/Wash Post

2/1 - 2/4

879 RV

51

45

Obama +6



IBD/CSM/TIPP

1/29 - 2/4

852 RV

47

41

Obama +6



USA Today/Gallup

1/27 - 1/28

907 RV

48

48

Tie


See All General Election: Romney vs. Obama Polling Data

Sally - Romney is a Mormon, not a catholic and I would not attach him to the birth control issue. Over the past 2 years, PBO's approval number has never really gotten over 50%. According to Gallup, catholics haven't changed their approval (or disapproval depending upon how you see it) of PBO.

Romney can pull in swing voters and contain the vote on the far right. I don't see the gap widening. I see it shrinking. He's vulnerable and is in trouble.

Nice try though.

Please do send Mitt out in November. Please.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/a...roblem.php

written by Ironman, February 15, 2012 - 11:30 AM

Sally - Romney is a Mormon, not a catholic and I would not attach him to the birth control issue

I didn't bring Romney into the birth control issue with regard to the Catholic Church's position. However, he supports personhood of a fertilized egg which would ban most hormonal birth control. So, in essence, he along with most of the GOP (and I am not restricting it to just the presidential candidates) appears to be anti-birth control (McConnell, Blunt, etc..)

Romney can pull in swing voters and contain the vote on the far right. I don't see the gap widening. I see it shrinking. He's vulnerable and is in trouble.

Nice try though.

My previous post shows Obama ahead of Romney in every poll, this includes independents. In addition, Romney lacks appeal even to his base. They are lukewarm to him. He is depending on his super PAC's to run negative ads against his opponent(s). He has nothing to offer. He is inauthentic.

With the economy improving, and the GOP walking a thin tightrope on not looking like they want to sabotage the economy and having nothing to offer on it - they have had to deflect to this non-winning issue (for them) of birth control. Not only won't Romney win in November, the Democrats have a fair shot at taking back the House. But nice try, though.

http://www.politico.com/news/s...72086.html

Maybe partisan wishful thinking, but still a possibility.


Obama's approval at 50%

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsal...ls-for-now

More on the GOP anti-birth control, anti- women's access to healthcare:

Over the weekend, Speaker Boehner doubled down on his commitment to undoing Obama's decision to require insurance companies to cover birth control--now he wants any employer to be able to deny any preventive care at all, including mammograms.1

I beleive that President Obama just gave his best speech to date in the last hour. Mark it: 2/15/12 Milwaukee, Wisconsin. At The Masterlock Plant. This great moment will start the race and Mr. President will not be stopped!

My previous post shows Obama ahead of Romney in every poll, this includes independents. In addition, Romney lacks appeal even to his base.

In conversation with many of my conservative friends, in past elections, they would have stayed home and not voted for a moderate republican. Not this time. If Romney gets the nominations, the far right won't be staying home on November 6th.

If Romney gets the nominations, the far right won't be staying home on November 6th

Neither will the far left.

Neither will the far left.

Not with photo voter ID.

Hey Iron, sorry about the delay.
Perhaps I erred a bit with word thesis.
Closer to an essay- about 10 pages, Needs a few hours commitment to type sometime.
I'll let you know when it's ready.

Also Iron, I'm glad you're studying these polls. To me they're all over the place and hard to get clarity from. We can only hope for the best. I wonder how many of those doofus college kids who think they're like, fighting racism n stuff with a BO vote, will turn out this time.

written by Ironman, February 15, 2012 - 04:26 PM


Neither will the far left.


Not with photo voter ID.

Finally! Someone from the right admitting that the whole voter ID is just an attempt to suppress Democratic votes.

Sure took you long enough to admit the truth. But better late than never.

. I wonder how many of those doofus college kids who think they're like, fighting racism n stuff with a BO vote, will turn out this time.

I wonder how many of those doofus tea partiers with their misspelled signs, some of which say "keep your government hands off my Medicare", who think they're like voting for smaller government, will turn out this time?

sally, I guess we should start polling the doofus vote.
It's looks like they'll be the tie braker.

written by graywolf, February 15, 2012 - 05:26 PM

Hey Iron, sorry about the delay.
Perhaps I erred a bit with word thesis.
Closer to an essay- about 10 pages, Needs a few hours commitment to type sometime.
I'll let you know when it's ready.

Wolfie - Works for me. Can we get a Cliffs Notes version?

written by graywolf, February 15, 2012 - 05:30 PM

Also Iron, I'm glad you're studying these polls. To me they're all over the place and hard to get clarity from. We can only hope for the best.

I've been looking at the polls. I don't see PBO going much above low to mid 50's. I've even been looking at the states (particularly Calyfornya) with respect to the electoral college.

At the end of the day, I expect the dead to rise up en masse and vote on election day. I'll call it now just like Kennedy and Nixon with those 100,000 votes in Chicago.

Remember, Chicago, 1960.

Didn't the Democrats in 2008 use the same playbook?

No need to fear imaginary dead voters; Romney's sinking himself just fine:
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo....-chart.php